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Wednesday, June 2, 2010

Response to Tartanmarine's "I'm Tired"

I'm Tired


I'll be 63 soon. Except for one semester in college when jobs
were scarce, and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but
job-hunting every day, I've worked, hard, since I was 18.


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I'll be 63 in November. I started my first full time job when I
was 17. Since then I haven't had a total of 6 months of
accumulated unemployment.
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Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks,
and haven't called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a

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I haven't called in sick in so long, when I had to call in to
tell them I couldn't work a scheduled day off when they wanted
me to I couldn't remember the attendance control phone number.

I still work in a factory where it is chilly in the winter, and
damned hot in the summer. I climb stairs and ladders and work
from pits in the floor to 40 feet up near the ceiling where the
heat accumulates. And yeah, I'm tired.
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good salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I
worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there's no
retirement in sight, and I'm tired. Very tired.

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I didn't inherit a job or my income, I worked to get where I am.
There is no retirement in sight for me either, and I am also
very tired.
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I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth
around" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of


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I am tired of desk jockies who claim some superior work ethic,
while spouting right wing talking head non-sense. Or does Mr
Hall have some objection to giving the low paid a chance to move
up in the world, as Mr Obama said, and thereby giving them a
chance to share in the wealth, thus spreading it to those who
work hard? The poor in this country are overwhelmingly the
working poor, and they probably work harder than Mr Hall does on
a bad day.
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being told the government will take the money I earned, by force
if necessary, and give it to people too lazy or stupid to earn
it.

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Anyone who makes a point of saying the government will take his
money by force should never be taken seriously. This government
relies mostly on people who submit their taxes without having to
have someone knock on the door.

Since when has any government ever taken money by any means than
requiring you pay with the threat of enforcement in the
background.

Mr. Hall, if there was no threat of enforcement, which means
force, I doubt you would pay any taxes for any purpose.

In a country where unemployment has been government policy for
decades, what standing does anyone have complaining about those
who cannot get decent paying jobs?
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I'm tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to "keep
people in their homes." Sure, if they lost their jobs or got
sick, I'm willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at
three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on
one-third of my salary, then let the leftwing Congresscritters
who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act
that created the bubble help them - with their own money.


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I'm tired of the lies the right tells to escape their
responsibility. Fannie and Freddie were minor players in the
meltdown, and the Community Reinvestment act had zero authority
over the unregulated mortgage brokers who made most of those bad
loans, and the investment houses that packaged and sold them as
derivatives. BTW, those derivatives are still unregulated, despite
the Clinton administration commodities regulators trying to
bring them under control well over a decade ago.

Oh, and if you can afford a paid off $250,000 condo I have no
sympathy for you.
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I'm tired of being told how bad America is by leftwing
millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood
entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities
America offers.

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I don't pay much attention to Hollywood entertainers, and don't
recall George Soros saying much on that subject, but you
certainly have gotten your facts wrong on Michael Moore. He
doesn't say America is bad, he does say some Americans are bad.
And if you deny that I will get a much needed laugh.
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In thirty years, if they get their way, the
United States will have the religious freedom and women's rights
of Saudi Arabia, the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the
press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance
for Gay people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela.

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You just described the policies of the religious right,
Limbaugh and the Bush administration, Wall Street, the political
right, and the Tea Party and Fox News.
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Won't multiculturalism be beautiful?

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Yes.
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I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace,"

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Would you feel better if I sent you a couple quotes from GW Bush
saying exactly that?
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when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men
killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family
"honor;" of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims
murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers;" of
Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage
rape victims to death for "adultery;" of Muslims mutilating the
genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the
Quran and Sharia law tells them to.

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Your ignorance is frightening. None of that is in the Quran.
No where does God say that. Sharia is an interpretation of
Islamic Law, it's not Islamic law, and every Islamic group comes
up with it's own.

What you described is not Islamic law, but cultural factors.

Another thing that is offensive is people who use "Allah" when
they write in English, whether they are Muslims or Muslim
haters. Allah is the Arabic word for God, and in English the
word used should be God.
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I believe "a man should be judged by the content of his
character, not by the color of his skin."

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And when that happens most of your racial complaints will be
resolved.
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I'm tired of being told that "race doesn't matter" in the
post-racial world of President Obama, when it's all that matters
in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and
graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most),
government contract set-asides,

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I'm tired of being told race doesn't matter when it's almost
always whites saying it. Race most certainly does matter. It
matters when people like you see affirmative action as a
significant factor. When was the last time you heard of anyone
near you being affected by it. Last time I looked the write up
in the World Almanac reported that 90% of the benefits of
Affirmative action went to white people.

And where do you see lower admission standards for minorities?
Do you count the advantage being a legacy gives whites? Is that
a lower standard? Do you count the advantages of better schools
give to whites? Doesn't overcoming disadvantages count as better
qualification?

What college has lower graduation standards for minorities? And
where do you get the gall to find yourself qualified to claim
any thing you mentioned harms them the most?

Always love it when some white guy claims to know what's best
for minorities.
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tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless
children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the
appointment of US Senators from Illinois.

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Once more the white guy knows what's best for minorities. What
makes you think the 'ghetto culture' of violence is tolerated by
anyone but the suburban whites who feel themselves insulated
from it?

What makes you think a white culture of fatherless children,
well on it's way to matching the black numbers, is any less
harmful? See to the beam in your own eye.

Here's one you won't believe, the birth rate to unwed black
women peaked in *1961*, and has gone down some 34% since then.
The rate for unmarried white women has gone up some 300% since
then. The shift to unmarried black mothers is not due to
increasing birth rates for unmarried black women, but to the
decline in births to married black women. The actual birth rates
and numbers for both are going down, but the numbers for married
women have gone down faster. Of course, that was before Bush
took office. Since the only increase in birth rates for
unmarried black women after '61 were in Reagan's time, who knows
what damage Bush did.

Oh, and where were you when GHW Bush was appointing Clarence
Thomas to the Supreme Court?
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I think it's very cool that we have a black president
and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where
Lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation. I just wish the
black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in
freedom and the individual and less in an all-knowing
government.

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If it was Condi Rice you wouldn't have any black children in the
Whitehouse now would you? I bet you forgot Condi Rice's
expressed support for affirmative action, or her comment that
our ancestors all came on boats, some by choice, others in
chains.
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I'm tired of a news media that thinks Bush's fundraising and
inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama's, at
triple the cost, were wonderful. That thinks Bush exercising
daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is
a great example for the public to control weight and stress,
that picked over every line of Bush's military records, but
never demanded that Kerry release his, that slammed Palin with
two years as governor for being too inexperienced for VP, but
touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best
president ever.

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I'm tired of right wingers to whom the truth is a stranger.
Obama's fundraising was done without taking pac money, Bush's
was done with $100,000 aggregators among his "Rangers".

Bush was never rebuked for exercising, but for taking many
extended vacations.

Bush's military records needed going over, since he clearly did
not show up for 6 months, as his own campaign admitted, and
there is no record of another 6 months. Whereas Kerry's records
are available if you want to bother. Last time I looked USA
today still had them online. If not, you can get them from
Paperless Archives for $10. That CD includes Kerry's FBI records
also.

The only records of Kerry's I know of that weren't released were
his medical records. I have Bush's released records, and his med
records are not there either. Oh, and have you ever seen Bush's
Honorable Discharge? I haven't. I looked, and can't find it.
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Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching
to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, but
the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.

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Whatever you might think of Kerry's politics, he was truly a
decorate war hero. Bush couldn't even show up for his weekend
warrior duties.

I supported John McCain in 2000, but when Bush's people racially
smeared McCain's family I came to loathe Bush, and when McCain
kissed up to Bush in 2004 I lost all respect for McCain.
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I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other
cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund
mosques and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America,
while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue
or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.

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Well, for once you say something sensible. Now you need just a
bit more education to get it right. It isn't Islam that is the
problem, it is Wahabi Islam. Or just Wahabism for short. Wahabi
is the official religion of Saudi Arabia, and almost all terror
aimed at the US it tied to Wahabism.

Islam is a religion of peach, Wahabies are a bunch of violent
nutcases.

However, they are the good buddies of the Bush family. Even the
Bin Laden family had members attending a Carlysle group meeting
with Bush sr on 9-11. Why do you think GW Bush had to rush so
many of them out of the country so quickly?
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I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to
fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife
and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five
miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our
daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about
5% of Al Gore's, and if you're greener than Gore, you're green
enough.

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I switched to compact flourescents before anyone heard Gore say
the word 'Green'. What's your problem? What Gore says has zip to
do with your contribution to Global Warming. Excessive
consumption of oil just enriches those Wahabi who fund terror
against us. That alone should justify switching to a green
lifestyle.
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I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I
must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they
do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and
stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it
off? I don't think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I damn sure
think druggies chose to take drugs. And I'm tired of harassment
from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I
never tried marijuana.

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I'm tired of those who try to paint their hate whines in denial
of reality. Yes, drug addiction is a medical conditions. The
term disease is just a convenient reference. If you can't
understand that you have no reason to even discuss it.

I never tried marijuana, sniffed glue, snorted coke, or used any
illegal drug even once. Nor even got drunk. No one ever treated
me in anyway unusual over that, not even my hippie friends back
in the late '60s before I enlisted. Maybe you are to sensitive.
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I'm tired of illegal aliens being called "undocumented workers,"
especially the ones who aren't working, but are living on
welfare or crime. What's next? Calling drug dealers,
"Undocumented Pharmacists?

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More spouting? In the next paragraph you give the lie to the one
above. Oh, and get rid of all the illegal aliens, and establish
a national policy of full employment, and you can pretty well do
away with welfare.
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And, no, I'm not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic
and it's been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill
me for my religion. I'm willing to fast track for citizenship
any Hispanic person who can speak English, doesn't have a
criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on
welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our
military. Those are the citizens we need.

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As a Catholic I guess I should thank you for your tolerance.
However, I am not in favor of fast tracking anyone. Most
Illegals are taking jobs Americans and legal residents could
have if they weren't being by illegals. Since when is
construction work Americans won't do? Until fairly recently most
hotels I stayed in had English speaking staff cleaning my room.
Wait staff in the restaurants I frequent and bus people all
converse with me in English.

We do not need *ANY* illegal labor.
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I'm tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never
wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their
entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing
our military.

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After Ann Coulter said Max Cleland got his silver star for being
blown up by his own hand grenade while going out with buddies for
a drink, you need to denounce the entire republican party. Esp
since he got his silver star for saving two Marines under a
mortar barrage at Khe Sanh. His wounds were incurred 4 days
later on a mission he volunteered for.
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They and their kids can sit at home, never having
to make split-second decisions under life and death
circumstances, and bad mouth better people then themselves. Do

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Same thing applies to most who attacked Kerry, and esp to George
W Bush.
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bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes
misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were
the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years - and still

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What enemies are those? Iraq was the buddy of republican
administrations before Kuwait. Clinton handed Bush a plan to
take out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan when he left office. Instead
Bush gave the Taliban millions of dollars.

Since when is the behavior of our enemies the standard for our
soldiers?
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are? Not even close. So here's the deal. I'll let myself be
subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on
terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let
themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims who tortured
and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who
tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in
Lebanon,

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Notice that those inhuman crimes were committed while Republican
administrations let them? And Reagan never really did retaliate
for the Marine Barracks in Lebanon.

Oh, will you let yourself be subjected to a course of
waterboarding?
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or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda
torture rooms our troops found in Iraq,

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Did you notice that those Al Qaeda torture rooms were in 2007,
after years of Bush administration war? Al Qaeda had nothing
like that in Iraq before Bush took charge. Again, not Muslims,
Wahabi. Al Qaeda is pure Wahabi in it's origin, and almost so
today.
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or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in
Indonesia, because the girls were Christian. Then we'll compare

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And what did Bush do about that?
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notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in
history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of
hiding from in fear.

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That was before GW Bush. Now it is different.
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I'm tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on
virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the

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So am I, so get the republicans to stop.
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papers - bums are bi-partisan. And I'm tired of people telling
me we need bi-partisanship. I live in Illinois, where the
"Illinois Combine" of Democrats and Republicans has worked
together harmoniously to loot the public for years. And I notice
that the tax cheats in Obama's cabinet are bi-partisan as well.

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I grew up in Illinois, and I am tired of the idea that
partisanship is bad. Partisan just means you believe in
something.
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I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and
politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes,
stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they
think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people
with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

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Aren't we all?
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Speaking of poor, I'm tired of hearing people with
air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The
majority of Americans didn't have that in 1970, but we didn't
know we were "poor." The poverty pimps have to keep changing the
definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.

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Anyone who uses the phrase, "poverty pimp" is obviously
incapable of coming up with an argument that stands up to
examination.

BTW, how many black and white TVs do you find being sold these
days?
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I'm real tired of people who don't take responsibility for
their lives and actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the
government, or discrimination, or big-whatever for their
problems.

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Sounds to me like you are the one blaming government, or
minorities, or big-whatever for your condition. Your pity party
needs to end.
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Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because,
mostly, I'm not going to get to see the world these people are
making. I'm just sorry for my granddaughter.

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I find the bad thing about coming up on 63 is that I am too damn
old to come back after your kind destroy our economy. I went
through the Nixon/Ford economy, the Reagan debacle, the GHW Bush
recession, and the GW Bush economic disaster leading to near
depression. I am too old to climb back out of this. The only
good news is, I have a pension, if you don't manage to wipe it
out, and social security, if you don't manage to sabotage it.
Between those two I can live well enough, if you don't manage to
utterly destroy our economy.

I could easily live long enough to see the full extent of the
damage your kind of thinking is going to bring down on this
country. Yet I doubt there is anything I can do about it this
late. Other than to do my part to reveal your BS for what it is.

I'm sorry for my Granddaughter also, and my children and step
children. In your world they will have to struggle like we never
did.
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